They're more of an "AES show" type of company. I spoke to someone and they felt the Royer more sturdy for the job. by rodabod » Sat Nov 26, 2005 5:21 pm, Post There's also the AEA R84 and R92 which are more affordable then the R-121 and quite nice. by Doublehelix » Mon Nov 21, 2005 9:35 am, Post I had been eyeing the AEA R-92, but after talking to the Mercenary folks (and explaining that it was mostly for e. guitars) they recommended the 121 over the 92. Every session could use both of these mics in my opinion in case anyone cares. AEA R84 $1000. Just waiting for them to get it and then I'll drive down to Foxboro and pick it up. I actually thought that something might be wrong with the model I had, and had them check it out at Merc after I returned it. This is in a studio where the most powerful amp is a 50 watt Marshall Stack. This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies. Last but not least is the Beyerdynamic series of ribbon mics: M130, M160, and M260. The Royer 121 and 122 get excellent reviews in any ribbon mic shootout. Won't be using it for bass. I'm really liking my 121. by soundguy » Wed Nov 23, 2005 4:09 pm, Post alcohol, February 7, 2006 in Phil O'Keefe: In The Studio Trenches. The brochure with the mic claims that the microphone reproduces what you hear and I must say that in my first application with this mic, the mic lives up to its manufacturer's claims. I feel it loses some of the nice sweet high's and makes the bass and mid's kinda clunky/honky sounding. Fletcher's web site describes the R92 as good for placing fairly close to the grill. The R84 was not a first choice pick for electric guitar, nor was the R94. Post by superapple » Thu Nov 17, 2005 5:48 am for use with amps, acoustic guitars, room mics....whatever some studio owner mates have told me they love both but did say that the royer is probably the more versatile than the AEA. As far as ribbons go the 121 is about as versitile as it gets, but the M160 is up there with it and half the price, but a different sound. Definitely a worthwhile investment though if only for guitar amps. I bought one from Mercenary, and was really disappointed. The more open high end can make it more well suited to other uses as well like acoustic, although I still find my R84 to be the go to mic for BIG. by r0ck1r0ck2 » Sat Nov 26, 2005 6:13 pm, Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 39 guests, Recording Techniques, People Skills, Gear, Recording Spaces, Computers, and DIY, for use with amps, acoustic guitars, room mics....whatever. by Meriphew » Thu Nov 17, 2005 12:31 pm, Post I thought I saw something about them releasing it for the last AES, then they said they would delay it till NAMM. I've just had my 121 for a short time, but so far not all that thrilled with it. I picked up an Royer 121 to use mainly on elect guitar and it's been stunning for that application. The R92 would be an excellent choice, it was made for close work and has been tuned to have less of a proximity effect. The AEA mics seem pretty good, but I think after reading everything I can find, I would get a 121 because of the multiple sources it sounds good on, which was pretty much everything. by Doublehelix » Sat Nov 26, 2005 8:32 am, Post It paired with a 57 on a cabinet gives you a lot to work with - recently did a song where a guitar part was double tracked, once Rickenbacker - slightly OD'd Fender Champ with a Baby Bottle and the other a Hiwatt type amp with the 57/121 combo. Those nulls are really nulls! I'd probably go with the Royer, or do what many other will tell you and get a Coles. by segaface » Sat Nov 26, 2005 10:07 am, Post For e. guits. by weatherbox » Wed Nov 23, 2005 3:29 pm, Post Vocals, I've only done one track, a male rock vocal singing into the rear of the mic. All wonderful and very useful ribbon mics that are significantly less then the Royer. wanna buy a ribbon mic - royer 121 or AEA R92? This is in a studio where the most powerful amp is … I'm looking forward to using it with some guitar amps this afternoon. I must be the only person in the universe that does not like the R92 on guitar cabs. by dictaphone » Thu Nov 24, 2005 1:02 am, Post But then again, I don't recall them being there last year either. I think you'll dig it alcohol. Changing gears a bit - Phil, did Soundelux show the E67 at NAMM, or has it been delayed? By But then again, I don't recall them being there last year either. It has a very "metallic" sound. The 84 was considered "warmer" than the 94 but neither were rated nearly as good as the 121. They are incredible sounding, and built like tanks. I wrote a review of the Nady RSM-2 for Mojo Pie, in which I compared it head to head with the Royer. wanna buy a ribbon mic - royer 121 or AEA R92. They both have the proper midrange character or transient response that is more appropriate to overheads than the R84 or R121 (neither of which sound bad, but just not as good as the 92 or SF-1 IME). by Meriphew » Sat Nov 26, 2005 1:07 pm, Post Just got back from a snowboarding vacation in VT. They're more of an "AES show" type of company. Powered by Invision Community. They said it sounded just fine. Not to make your decisions harder, but don't overlook the Beyer M160, which is IMO, an excellent all purpose ribbon that works well in a variety of applications. The "figure of eight" pattern is very useful, though. by cominginsecond » Tue Nov 22, 2005 1:02 pm, Post I used it with my Amek board's mic pre and I had more than enough gain. the 121 is a fine microphone but considering the other mics royer makes, Im dumbfounded with the popularity of the 121. I'd love to hear some more opinions. Congrats on the very cool new mic. © 1995-2019 Harmony Central, Inc. All rights reserved. ...serving the creative recording community since 2001... Post Still figuring it out as a mono overhead or front of kit mic on drums... mixed results, but my kit also sounds awful so it's never too fair to judge based on it! Still working with various placements, but haven't found an arrangement where it sounds better than a Senn 609 on a guitar amp. by superapple » Wed Nov 16, 2005 9:48 pm, Post by thearnicasync » Wed Nov 23, 2005 8:26 am, Post Many people seem to like them quite a bit. I tend to move the 121 back off the sound, more than others do. I compared it to the R121, and knew right away in my mind that it just did not compare. Top. by Meriphew » Wed Nov 23, 2005 2:30 pm, Post by Reuben » Thu Nov 17, 2005 12:01 pm, Post I spoke to someone and they felt the Royer more sturdy for the job. I'd go Royer R-121 if you have a good mic pre. They're fairly inexpensive too - about $600 or so. Royer 121 $1100. Shure 300+Beyer m160 here both were under $300, ↳ 5/03-2/05: Off-Topic / Off-Color / Off-the-Cuff, ↳ 5/03-2/05: Musicians Wanted/Available, ↳ 5/03-2/05: Producer/Engineer and Studio Job Listings. By design, the AEA R92 does have less proximity effect for close up applications, so that's important to note. Gotta get me some Royers one of these days... (grumble grumble ) ... and some AEA's... (more grumbling...). Soundelux wasn't at NAMM. For most of the track I'm only using the 57 and the Champ track but brought up the 121 for the choruses and the sheer SIZE the guitar tone takes on is fantastic. or. After all this reading here and there, and hearing the results first hand from Rear Window studio in Brookline MA, I ordered a Royer 121 from Mercenary. Decisions, decisions, want a ribbon for elec guitar: Fletcher's web site describes the R92 as good for placing fairly close to the grill. Finally picked up the Royer 121 and tried it as a room mike for drums. The mic did not dissapoint. Both are great mics. vs. AEA R92 $825. The September 2005 and November 2005 issues of Electronic Musician have some excellent reviews of ribbon microphones. IF I was using ribbons on overheads I would reach for either a Royer SF-1 pair or an AEA R92 pair as first preferences in that application above any other ribbons. © 1995-2019 Harmony Central, Inc. All rights reserved. Sounded really nice though a touch too subdued for the song and ended up going to a LDC instead.